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Discussion starter · #62 ·
got the intake pipe back from the welder today, since the piping was previously powdercoated (i stole a piece of my Neon SRT-4 K&N piping to make the prototype pipe) it has some burn spots from the welding so i have to clean it up before i take some pictures. also its been raining the past few days so once it stops ill be able to test fit it and see how it performs :) it looks exactly how i planned it just need to make sure it fits properly.
 
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Today I decided to go a little further exploring the possibilities of the previously mentioned idea of moving the battery to where the stock air box is located and running the CAI to where the battery was... and it is VERY feasable. After tooling around today under the hood I removed the battery and the battery platform and figured out a way to mount the platform securely where the stock air box was, and then run the CAI to where the battery was. Just come up with some extended battery cables and that's that!
However, I think I'm going to go with Dawm's idea, but take it one step further. I'm going to route my air filter to the front driver's side bumper area. I don't have fog lights, and there is a nice open cavity there that is shielded from water. Plus the unused fog lamp opening is a wide open vent on the front of bumper... perfect to feed the CAI with nice cold outside air hitting the front of the car!!! Looks like there's enough room under the battery and a nice open pathway to the fog light cavity. I'm going to give it a go! I'll keep you all posted.
 
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Yeah putting it behind the fog light opening will work, you just need a smaller filter as the RU4590 really doesnt wanna fit in there, But i have Fog lights so i couldnt put mine there even tho i tried =p
 
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Shaun said:
After tooling around today under the hood I removed the battery and the battery platform and figured out a way to mount the platform securely where the stock air box was, and then run the CAI to where the battery was. Just come up with some extended battery cables and that's that!
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Pictures man! where are the pictures?
 
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dawm,

You said, "got the harness :D works perfectly and gives it enough length to reach where im gonna put the IAT." May I ask you where you got the extension? I did something similar on my '96 Impala SS, but I cut the wires and soldered them back together. Then, later I found that they sold an extension. Any secrets you can pass out would be greatly appreciated.

Thatnk,
Kurt

'09 Caliber RT, black
'05 Suzuki Boulevard C50, black
'96 Impala SS, black
I'm seeing a pattern here...
 
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mrimpala said:
dawm,

You said, "got the harness :D works perfectly and gives it enough length to reach where im gonna put the IAT." May I ask you where you got the extension? I did something similar on my '96 Impala SS, but I cut the wires and soldered them back together. Then, later I found that they sold an extension. Any secrets you can pass out would be greatly appreciated.
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:Hey:Heads up Shaun, this may NOT be a viable mod on CVT equipped Calibers!:wow: I say "may" because I'm not 100% sure, I haven't ripped anything apart beyond my pre-filter air intake (Only took two twists of the wrist, no tools) to look around, along with an under car crawl to see the bottoms up view of the same, (Thank you Caliber R/T ground Clarence! No jack needed to get underneath all the way to the engine! Do I really want to lower this? Now batting for St. Louis...:doh:... )

Anyway, it looks like a good sized chunk of the CVT lives RIGHT under the battery. I saw no empty/extra space to run any sort of an air intake tube, at all. I can only guess the 5 speed takes up different/less space. It's a known fact that no other automatic will FIT the Caliber, it was designed around the CVT tranny. So.....

Perhaps your destiny lies on a different path than Dawm. Perhaps you are destind to explore the battery/air intake relocation switcheroo agenda instead. And that extended harness trick may yet prove useful...:naughty: From what I do see, the hardest part of a battery relocation, is being sure you've made a sturdy enough mount to hold the weight of the battery itself. Were one to turn the battery a quarter turn clockwise sideways into the area the filter case fills now, wire extentions would only be needed for the ground wire. A bolt in section of battery cable about 6 to 9 inches should be enough!
 
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mrimpala said:
Nice. I've had two 1965 Impala SS's, and one 1964 Impala...with a/c. ( :I currently have a 1996 Impala SS.

Kurt
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I have a soft spot for '64's myself.:shy:

I grew up in a '64 Impala convertable (We lived in a house, for the record.), 283 2 barrel with a powerglide, white with a black top and interior, A/C. Mom got it fall of '65 when my Dad traded in our 1960 Impala convertable, 348 automatic (Slimjim?) white, white top, red interior. Mom had the '64 for 12 years (She REALLY liked that car), so I got to drive it a few times before Dad went and traded it in on a 73 Impala hardtop... Nowhere near as cool.
 
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MykTurk said:
:Hey:Heads up Shaun, this may NOT be a viable mod on CVT equipped Calibers!:wow: I say "may" because I'm not 100% sure, I haven't ripped anything apart beyond my pre-filter air intake (Only took two twists of the wrist, no tools) to look around, along with an under car crawl to see the bottoms up view of the same, (Thank you Caliber R/T ground Clarence! No jack needed to get underneath all the way to the engine! Do I really want to lower this? Now batting for St. Louis...:doh:... )

Anyway, it looks like a good sized chunk of the CVT lives RIGHT under the battery. I saw no empty/extra space to run any sort of an air intake tube, at all. I can only guess the 5 speed takes up different/less space. It's a known fact that no other automatic will FIT the Caliber, it was designed around the CVT tranny. So.....

Perhaps your destiny lies on a different path than Dawm. Perhaps you are destind to explore the battery/air intake relocation switcheroo agenda instead. And that extended harness trick may yet prove useful...:naughty: From what I do see, the hardest part of a battery relocation, is being sure you've made a sturdy enough mount to hold the weight of the battery itself. Were one to turn the battery a quarter turn clockwise sideways into the area the filter case fills now, wire extentions would only be needed for the ground wire. A bolt in section of battery cable about 6 to 9 inches should be enough!
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You're right MykTurk, it is tight under the battery. I pulled everything off again tonight (airbox, battery, battery platform, etc.) and fit the parts I have so far together the way I had planned... so it is most definitely feasable the way I'm planning to do it. I will route the 2.5" pipe down under the battery with a coupler or two (moving a few wires out of the way) turning 45 degrees and capping the K&N air filter #RX-4010 in the empty fog light cavity in the front bumper. The fog light cover popped right off to open that airway in the front bumper fog light cavity... again, perfect for a cooler air flow - and plenty of it! I should have the rest of my parts by this weekend and will be putting it together then. I will definitely let you know how it turns out. I love a challenge!
So to you MykTurk... I accept the callenge!!!

By the way... I pulled off the battery cover/airbox vent last time and left it off and suprisingly experienced a nice jump in throttle response! If this doesn't work I'm going back to that.
 
Discussion starter · #77 · (Edited)
Ok.. so i finally got around to bundling it all up and installing it.. The hardest part was getting the darn IAT sensor in the grommet without the grommet popping out the otherside, after that it was a simple bolt-in install..

It works, car seems much more peppier than with the stock intake.. BUT.... it sounds like CRAP!.. sitting in the driveway revving the engine it sounds just like any car with a K&N filter on it really nice and louder than stock. But on the street and driving... the second you put your foot down and accellerate it sounds like a Honda Civic with a fart can on it.. but from the engine bay!!.. during my testing i was getting looks and people laughing at me it sounds so retarded. just cruising you dont hear it, but the second you give it some gas (doesnt even have to be floored) it gets retarded, and around 5800rpm it starts to whistle..

Sooo.. as far as form and function it works, the only downside is the retarded noise it makes :( I dont have the time or motivation to figure out a way of correcting the noise, maybe its the size of the filter, maybe its because its such a short pipe.. but i'm just gonna rock the stock intake setup until something better comes along thats not a WAI and that doesnt make people laugh at my Caliber.

If anyone is interested in the prototype, i'd sell it for $100 without the filter (need it for my other car).
 
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dawm said:
Ok.. so i finally got around to bundling it all up and installing it.. The hardest part was getting the darn IAT sensor in the grommet without the grommet popping out the otherside, after that it was a simple bolt-in install..

It works, car seems much more peppier than with the stock intake.. BUT.... it sounds like CRAP!.. sitting in the driveway revving the engine it sounds just like any car with a K&N filter on it really nice and louder than stock. But on the street and driving... the second you put your foot down and accellerate it sounds like a Honda Civic with a fart can on it.. but from the engine bay!!.. during my testing i was getting looks and people laughing at me it sounds so retarded. just cruising you dont hear it, but the second you give it some gas (doesnt even have to be floored) it gets retarded, and around 5800rpm it starts to whistle..

Sooo.. as far as form and function it works, the only downside is the retarded noise it makes :( I dont have the time or motivation to figure out a way of correcting the noise, maybe its the size of the filter, maybe its because its such a short pipe.. but i'm just gonna rock the stock intake setup until something better comes along thats not a WAI and that doesnt make people laugh at my Caliber.

If anyone is interested in the prototype, i'd sell it for $100 without the filter (need it for my other car).
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Its great you are tring different things out. I really need someone to drop off there car so I can do some fitting and size testing.
 
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ptperformance said:
Its great you are tring different things out. I really need someone to drop off there car so I can do some fitting and size testing.
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yeah.. it seemed so promising.. but with the retarded noise it makes.. any gains are negated by the looks and stares you get when you drive by..:shakehead:

im gonna put my caliber tinkering on hold until i get my neon project done, the caliber has taken too much time away from my goal of getting it running this year =p
 
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I am glad to say that my exeperiment has finally come to fruition. My cai is built and has been test run with exciting results. The results show a definite increase in seat if the pants hp and torque. The throttle response is better. And best of all, it's not loud like K&N... Much more of an acceptabe sound. I'll be posting all the details and pics soon
 
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