[Ironwolf]

I saved myself money and just removed the cover that goes over the battery and was the inlet for the intake, not only do I have better throttle response and I have cash to spare

 

[Quiet Lunatic]

If you look closly it states 2nd gear run. From what I have seen most are trying to dyno the R/T CVT Caliber with the autostick, and they put it in 2nd gear. That fixes the ratio, or very close to it. I think they should have gotten a manual R/T for a more accurate reading.

On a side note, the Magnaflow exaust IMO is the best mod. Unlike the K&N CAI which is very very loud, it only adds some noise, TOTALLY NOT Ricy either, and provides a better increase in HP from what I can tell.

I do have both though. The combination does open up the R/T AWD, with the CVT a little. I would imagine if I had the manual, it would be a lot of fun.

so you also have the magnaflow exhaust? Ive been hunting around for who has it the cheapest. Did you have that installed before the cai? If so, how much difference in sound with just the magnaflow? Have any pictures of the exhaust?

 

[mouser]

I've read somewhere that removing the battery cover will severely hinder performance as the engine ends up sucking in hot air rather than fresh air coming in from the front. it does makes sense, too.

If you have a custom hood (or adventurous enough to modify the standard one), you'd be bettor off building a fresh air intake scoop on there. One that would provide greater influx than the stock intake (wich does look kinda flat to me...).

Keep in mind, also, that engines are often tuned for particular intake (and exhaust) pressure. In theory, O2 sensors should be able to compensate, but only a dyno would tell.

In my 96 Sunfire SE, I had installed an electric "supercharger" (actually more like a ram air system) from http://electricsupercharger.com/ This actually worked and could actually feel a difference in 1st and 2nd gear. I no longer have the unit (sold it along the Sunfire) but it would be interesting to see what kind of gain we could have on the Caliber with that.

 

[Croox]

I got one of these about 2 months ago off autoanything.com and it is louder than the stock. and installation was fairly easy once hooked up the the throttle body. I left the battery cvr on since i noticed it supports the metal frame around the filter somewhat. and it seems to suck more off the cowl rather than thru that cover.

overall I'm pleased with the sound and the little bit of performance it adds

 

[albert]

so you also have the magnaflow exhaust? Ive been hunting around for who has it the cheapest. Did you have that installed before the cai? If so, how much difference in sound with just the magnaflow? Have any pictures of the exhaust?

I Installed the Magnaflow exaust after the K&N CAI. I did it myself. It was a little heavy, therefore I recommend having someone who can help hold things. I used jack stands and did all of it by my self. My plan was to try each part seperatly for sound, performance, and gas milage, but the K&N CAI was enough of a pain especially getting to the throttle body, I decided it is on for good.

See the follwoing thread for videos with soudn before and after.

http://www.caliberforumz.com/showthread.php?t=4040

I am running low on space, but I can provide more pictures if you like. Removing the old was much harder than installing the new because it is one piece and heavy. Installign the new is done one piece at a time. I used a car jack under the cat to keep from pulling to hard on it. The stock exaust pipe was a little stuck on it, so I had to turn it while pulling on it to get it removed.

I still say we need to find a 2.5"-3" pipe we can snake to the frount of the car for a direct cold air path, but it needs a shield on the front to keep water from being rammed in. Even the K&N CAI can suck in a lot of hot air, even after I totally coated it with heat shield / sound deadning material.

 

[albert]

I've read somewhere that removing the battery cover will severely hinder performance as the engine ends up sucking in hot air rather than fresh air coming in from the front. it does makes sense, too.

If you have a custom hood (or adventurous enough to modify the standard one), you'd be bettor off building a fresh air intake scoop on there. One that would provide greater influx than the stock intake (wich does look kinda flat to me...).

Keep in mind, also, that engines are often tuned for particular intake (and exhaust) pressure. In theory, O2 sensors should be able to compensate, but only a dyno would tell.

In my 96 Sunfire SE, I had installed an electric "supercharger" (actually more like a ram air system) from http://electricsupercharger.com/ This actually worked and could actually feel a difference in 1st and 2nd gear. I no longer have the unit (sold it along the Sunfire) but it would be interesting to see what kind of gain we could have on the Caliber with that.

Give it a try and let us know. Do they have the ability to force much air into the engine? They look like they can help increase the flow a bit, but not like a turbo will.

 

[albert]

I got one of these about 2 months ago off autoanything.com and it is louder than the stock. and installation was fairly easy once hooked up the the throttle body. I left the battery cvr on since i noticed it supports the metal frame around the filter somewhat. and it seems to suck more off the cowl rather than thru that cover.

overall I'm pleased with the sound and the little bit of performance it adds

Are you referring to the CAI, or the electric supercharger?

 

[mouser]

The E-RAM I had back then was 0-12000RPM in 1/10th of a second. They enhanced the motor now to 0-27,000 in as little time so any comment I might have is somewhat outdated.

Though, that one I had displaced air at an equivalent of 80kph or so. So, that's the effectiveness of an RAM Air but at a start line. Effectiveness lessens as you accelerate, though, because the engine didn't adapt well to forced-intaked (I'm talking about the 96 Sunfire 2.2L engine here).

Unlike a turbo or belt-driven supercharger, the E-RAM doesn't have power lag, and the Caliber's VVT engine would probably be a very good fit for it given it can retime it's intake/exhaust valves at will.

I wont be installing this on my Caliber for now as the current R/T I have is a location. When the SRT4 comes out, if I make the switch, I'll start modifying the car (though the SRT4 is set to have a supercharger in it so the E-RAM would not bring anything worth to it).

This is what it looked like in the rusty engine block of my then Sunfire:

You can tell I wasn't going for aesthetics back then. But the custom tubing was as smooth as a baby's ass and was very effective. Sounded nice too. That white filter is the cam block air circulation valve.

That picture is also from a quick-test installation while I was trying out throttle-body switch. The wiring has been neatly tucked in after things were all set, and the tubing secured in place. That thing sounded very mean.

 

[Croox]

Are you referring to the CAI, or the electric supercharger?

I was talking about the K&N Intake

 

[Cjew113]

Hey, i'm new to the forums..anyways...i'm buying a K&N CAI tomorrow and hopefully i'll get it installed tomorrow as well if i have time...i'm pretty excited, i'll definitely let you know what i think about it when its done!

 

[albert]

I put another layer of Dynaliner around the "heat shield" for the K&N "CAI" and it is almost identical to stock from 0-2500 rpm. and a little louder at 3000-4000 and at redline it has a slight resonance vibration sound. The 2nd layer made the difference for sound.

On the performance side, what I find interesting about the "heat shield" for the K&N "CAI" after 2 layers of heat shielding dynaliner material, the inside of the "CAI" is still rather warm to touch. CAI? I doubt it.

 

[LLSJ07]

K&N 63 Series AirCharger High-Flow Intake Kit, i can get it for grand total of $187.16:b1: has anyone found it cheaper

 

[Excaliber07]

K&N 63 Series AirCharger High-Flow Intake Kit, i can get it for grand total of $187.16:b1: has anyone found it cheaper

That's the cheapest I've heard.:wow:

 

[LLSJ07]

That's the cheapest I've heard.:wow:

i have until 8/15/07 to order it for that price! and i think i will.

 

[LLSJ07]

i have until 8/15/07 to order it for that price! and i think i will.

mine is in the mail!!! i get it monday 8/20/07

 

[Excaliber07]

Let us know what you think about it after you install it.

 

[LLSJ07]

mine is in the mail!!! i get it monday 8/20/07

i got it today:rockon::b1:but, it's raining super hard now!!just started the minute i got out of work....:i_rolleyes::zav::4-flames::4-flames:so maybe tomorrow!

 

[Excaliber07]

i got it today:rockon::b1:but, it's raining super hard now!!just started the minute i got out of work....:i_rolleyes::zav::4-flames::4-flames:so maybe tomorrow!

Just a fair warning on the install. You may want to remove your battery completely to give yourself room for the intake tube install. Be Careful when re-installing the air temperature sensor, it was a real pain for me.

 

[J. Kirsch]

Rain??!? What's that? I've heard tell of it...

Seriously, 11th consecutive day of 100+F degree temps with a level 3 drought. We're currently 27" below where we should be for rainfall this year.


Joe

 

[LLSJ07]

Just a fair warning on the install. You may want to remove your battery completely to give yourself room for the intake tube install. Be Careful when re-installing the air temperature sensor, it was a real pain for me.

thanks! will do, i took a look at it at lunch time, there is a graph with hp readings of about 8hp.