Stutters under acceleration...

11806 Views 17 Replies 6 Participants Last post by Dragster666, Mar 3, 2016

Tibul

Discussion Starter · Jun 28, 2015

Hey guys I know there is lots of threads on power loss extra, but there is something specific I wanted to ask so started a new thread. Quick rundown of my issue...

About 6 months I go I had power loss under acceleration feels like the car drops in speed before picking up and so on with multiple error codes pointing towards an EGR issue hence I changed the EGR which weirdly didn't solve the issue (still error codes) continued to run the car for a few week and suddenly the issue stopped and I've had trouble free motoring until now.

As of a few days ago the exact same issue as above returned, lots of power loss and feels like the acceleration continuelly backs off when nearing 2k rpm and randomly after this point. Only things I've done recently is an oil change and also gone from long runs to many short runs. I've checked the EGR and doesn't look clogged in anyway but still EGR codes with the new one.

Now my question... I read somewhere that occasionally the Throttle Body can cause these symptoms as the valve turns half way when the EGR is active and maybe becomes stuck. I've given it a good clean and out of curiosity removed the cover to the gearing mechanism for the butterfly valve and when the lid popped off loads! and I mean Loads of oil spilled out both the cogs and the electronics inside the throttle body were soaked in what looks like engine oil.

Now surely they don't fill this chamber with oil for lubrication If not then could this be the problem, and If so can I just clean out all of this oil and find something to re-lube the cog teeth with?.

If I'm going down the wrong path for the above symptoms then feel free to point me in the right direction I just though the above to be really odd.

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bigtsr

· #2 · Jun 28, 2015

Welcome to the ForumZ.

There are only a few members here with CRD Calibers but I am sure
one will read your post and offer advice.

Tibul

Discussion Starter · #3 · Jun 30, 2015

Hi! Well it seems my suspitions were unfounded as when putting everything back together after cleaning I noticed a tear down the back of the boost hose that connects into the throttle body so seems this is my issue.

So if anyone has error codes and power loss pointing towards EGR it may actually be worth checking the boost hose also as this brought up EgR codes for me.

Aleks

· #4 · Jun 30, 2015

Thanks for the tip - may be my symptom too. Can you post a pic.

Flyinghigh

· #5 · Jul 8, 2015

Did you get a new hose and did that cure your problem?

Dragster666

· #6 · Jul 10, 2015

I have the same problem, but no errors ... yet ... found a crack in the hose connecting to the throttle body with the EGR valve. Anyone knows the partno. of the hose? Can I replace it myself?

bigtsr

· #7 · Jul 11, 2015

Possibly Alecs will have access to the part number for the CRD.

Aleks

· #8 · Jul 11, 2015 (Edited)

Don't even know which hose to be checking. Any photos of this issue now raised by half a dozen members ?

As for parts have to ask the FCA dealer. If it's part of the the engine package it should be available from disounted VW factors.

Dragster666

· #9 · Jul 12, 2015

Used oceans of time researching. The Hose that connects into the inletvalve (and EGR valve) is called

04891705AC, 04891705AB, 04891705AA

I Just ordered one.

Should be ok to replace, found an internal link here

Enjoy

Dragster666

· #10 · Jul 13, 2015

Aleks said:
Don't even know which hose to be checking. Any photots of this issue now raised by half a dozen members ?

Photo is found here

Aleks

· #11 · Jul 13, 2015

Thx, how much is it?
I had no idea where it went to or how to remove it.
This is my suspect but how did you check it? Feel, mirror, disconnect from EGR.

Dragster666

· #12 · Jul 14, 2015

Found it at Proauto EU for 70€ which was the cheapest since the shipping is free

Looked at the hoses yesterday, I think the description from scottish.srt is fine, I will update this thread when I have replaced mine.

When you step lightly on the gas pedal, it shudders and when stepping to the bottom it is slow to react and does not give full pressure on the turbo. While driving in the city I hear a whistle like a policecar

I just looked into the engine bay and saw a crack on 1-1,5 inches long and had air blowing in my face ... knew then it was the sinner.

Dragster666

· #13 · Jul 28, 2015 (Edited)

10

Replaced the Intercooler Hose today.

This is a picture of the old Hose:

Using scottish.srt's description, I pulled the clip out.
NB! Be sure it is entirely in its outer-position

Auto part Automotive fuel system Fuel line

I then removed the bottom shield and had free access to the lower part of the hose

Auto part Automotive wheel system Automotive tire Vehicle Wheel

I removed the bolt at the bottom and pulled the pipe up through the engine bay.

Controlled the parts:

Footwear Jeans Shoe

Pipe Auto part Synthetic rubber Metal

Pipe Auto part Exhaust manifold Muffler Automotive exhaust

Pipe Auto part Exhaust manifold Automotive exhaust Exhaust system

The sinner:

Tire Automotive tire Metal

Refitted the new hose at the top

Auto part Pipe Fuel line

then at the bottom

Auto part Pipe Rust Automotive exhaust Exhaust system

Replaced the covers and drove off.

Took me 1,5 hours and I did not hurry. Cost me 17£ at the local DIY workshop with a lift.

My car is driving normally again

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James mcfarlane

· #14 · Feb 28, 2016 (Edited by Moderator)

dodge

Can u send your email pal my dodge all so has spit pipe [email protected]

Aleks

· #15 · Feb 29, 2016

If you can see the split then the dealer was the best place to pick one up.

I bought it on suspicion but when I dismantled my stock one was perfect so ended up taking it back.

James mcfarlane

· #16 · Feb 29, 2016

wot was the price for the pipe pal

Aleks

· #17 · Mar 1, 2016

00K04891705AC £68.48

with a discount

Dragster666

· #18 · Mar 3, 2016 (Edited)

Please ignore this

was not really awake before posting

Tibul said:
Hi! Well it seems my suspitions were unfounded as when putting everything back together after cleaning I noticed a tear down the back of the boost hose that connects into the throttle body so seems this is my issue.

So if anyone has error codes and power loss pointing towards EGR it may actually be worth checking the boost hose also as this brought up EgR codes for me.

I was about to suggest that you check the boost hose

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