[Axidworks]

Ok im not trying to make things too complicated here. My issue is that i have a horrible belt squeal. And I can't figure out where its coming from.

I have replaced all the idler pulleys and the belt a couple times now, and it is just getting to be too much.

My a/c doesnt even work, so I went to the autozone and asked if they had a belt for the dodge caliber 2.4 non turbo w/o a/c. They said yeah and gave it to me. Now I have it and the only diagrams I have found look nothing like the pully set up on the engine.

So is it possible to install a belt onto the car leaving the a/c out?

 

[Prop1]

Ok im not trying to make things too complicated here. My issue is that i have a horrible belt squeal. And I can't figure out where its coming from.

I have replaced all the idler pulleys and the belt a couple times now, and it is just getting to be too much.

My a/c doesnt even work, so I went to the autozone and asked if they had a belt for the dodge caliber 2.4 non turbo w/o a/c. They said yeah and gave it to me. Now I have it and the only diagrams I have found look nothing like the pully set up on the engine.

So is it possible to install a belt onto the car leaving the a/c out?

Been discussed before. There is no way to do it on one with A/C. The pulley setup is different. If you can't afford a new A/C; then get one from an auto salvage yard.

 

[Axidworks]

Been discussed before. There is no way to do it on one with A/C. The pulley setup is different. If you can't afford a new A/C; then get one from an auto salvage yard.

Shoot.

I just dont want to use the A/C altogether.

Thanks

 

[jbrowner84]

Sorry but I think I missed a point or two...whats causing the squeal? Also, is there something wrong with your a/c or are you having an issue finding the right belt?

Just trying to get a grasp on the root of your issue since you took the time to post your issue.

 

[Prop1]

Sorry but I think I missed a point or two...whats causing the squeal? Also, is there something wrong with your a/c or are you having an issue finding the right belt?

Just trying to get a grasp on the root of your issue since you took the time to post your issue.

His A/C compressor is fried and he wants to bypass it with a non-A/C belt, but the pulley configuration is different. There is no way of doing it without making modifications. A used compressor would be cheaper.

 

[Turbojettajmo]

There is no way of doing it without making modifications. A used compressor would be cheaper.

This is not even remotely true. The only downside is routing without a/c requires changing alternator rotation. This is not entirely an issue thanks to dodge using a spring loaded decoupler instead of a one-way rotational decoupler pulley. It will work, but the fan blades on the alternator will be rotating the wrong direction so alternator cooling won’t be as efficient. That said, the 82.5” belt listed most places as the no a/c belt is a couple inches too short, you will need to go up a couple sizes.

 

[672aq]

I saw a mounting plate with a pulley attached, that you install in place of the compressor, so you could use the same belt. But I can't find it.

I posted it on the Caliber International Facebook page a couple of months back, but I've already been banned. Maybe you could find the post.

 

[McBiznass]

This is not even remotely true. The only downside is routing without a/c requires changing alternator rotation. This is not entirely an issue thanks to dodge using a spring loaded decoupler instead of a one-way rotational decoupler pulley. It will work, but the fan blades on the alternator will be rotating the wrong direction so alternator cooling won’t be as efficient. That said, the 82.5” belt listed most places as the no a/c belt is a couple inches too short, you will need to go up a couple sizes.

Indeed and agreed. I'm glad this post still has life because a hoard of 10yr old models are hitting the used market and people will need this.

Let's get to is. First off yes, AC compressors are the first to start whining. However, the engine blocks were built for base model service and municipal vehicles w/out AC so the lower idler was added to accommodate the larger belt size.

IT'S THE ONE IN THE WAY OF THE LOWER GENERATOR BOLT!!!! (Everyone knows how I discovered that!) This base model build is unanimous with the other features to UConnect etc. so be ready to replace entire wiring harness or get mad techie splicing stuff in.

The non AC belt has a break in period like anything else so just make sure you're tensioner spring is in good shape so there's no slipping and with this config the generator still spins the proper direction. You might get a battery light if it slips. Gently adjust the tensioner. it's threaded backwards so don't loosen it!

I'm driving it now and just did this yesterday during my folly of thinking the generator was bad. My handle everywhere is McBiznass. Hit me up. I'm a Dodge/Caliber enthusiast. Converting thIs 2010 SXT to R/T SRT. Been fun and interesting. Hats off to Dodge for this lego style build!

Happy trails!

 

[672aq]

It should be simple enough to make an “Air Conditioning Bypass Pulley”:

 

[Joepost99]

Ok im not trying to make things too complicated here. My issue is that i have a horrible belt squeal. And I can't figure out where its coming from.

I have replaced all the idler pulleys and the belt a couple times now, and it is just getting to be too much.

My a/c doesnt even work, so I went to the autozone and asked if they had a belt for the dodge caliber 2.4 non turbo w/o a/c. They said yeah and gave it to me. Now I have it and the only diagrams I have found look nothing like the pully set up on the engine.

So is it possible to install a belt onto the car leaving the a/c out?

I know this is old thread but surely people are still dealing with this issue. It's almost impossible to find bypass pulley for this engine. You can simply get a shorter belt and route it different. You will need a 6 rib 80.5 inch belt. From cs pulley go up and around left side of bottom idler pulley then to the right and around bottom 1/4 of alternator pulley and then straight up and around the right side of power steering pump.

 

[John Galt]

I know this is old thread but surely people are still dealing with this issue. It's almost impossible to find bypass pulley for this engine. You can simply get a shorter belt and route it different. You will need a 6 rib 80.5 inch belt. From cs pulley go up and around left side of bottom idler pulley then to the right and around bottom 1/4 of alternator pulley and then straight up and around the right side of power steering pump.

Have you tried this? Does it work well?

I'm thinking of bypassing both AC and power steering on my Caliber.

 

[The Mechanic Michael]

Shoot.

I just dont want to use the A/C altogether.

Thanks

Get a bypass pulley it can be done.

 

[danielpena6045]

Have you tried this? Does it work well?

I'm thinking of bypassing both AC and power steering on my Caliber.

This in fact does work. I just did this today it will work on any vehicle dodge/Chrysler 2007-2014 2.4l I would upload a diagram how I did it but the one listed above is the one I used

 

[Caliburrn]

This is not even remotely true. The only downside is routing without a/c requires changing alternator rotation. This is not entirely an issue thanks to dodge using a spring loaded decoupler instead of a one-way rotational decoupler pulley. It will work, but the fan blades on the alternator will be rotating the wrong direction so alternator cooling won’t be as efficient. That said, the 82.5” belt listed most places as the no a/c belt is a couple inches too short, you will need to go up a couple sizes.

Size has to be so precise... This person would have to buy several and keep changing them if you don't have a size recommendation. I had a high output alternator installed which requires a .5" shorter belt...Needless to say even though i reminded the installer to get a shorter one, and he reassured me he would, he left factory one with 60k on...Fried the Alternator and caused slippage. Luckily alternator has a warranty. What is the downside of me not having a one way rotational decoupler pulley? Or OAD (Overide alternator decoupler) The high output alternator came with a smaller non OAD pulley. Does it matter if it is a whole new alternator regarding the fan blades rotating the wrong direction?

 

[Enrico]

Writing from South Africa. Have the Caliber 2.4 sxt. A/C compressor bearing went. While waiting for a replacement (that had to be fitted by an engineering shop) I fitted the 6PK 2045mm belt (same as 80.5 in mentioned earlier) and it works perfectly to bypass the a/c.