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Maybe a wiring error. You have to make sure you tapped into the correct wires and that the new wiring is correctly done.
Rear window defroster coming on? - Sounds like a new variation on the starter motor suddenly coming on without warning.

The relay coil should be energized by the headlight circuit. It should be fed from the low beam light wire and the other coil terminal should connect to the common wire of the light plug.
The relay contacts (NO) should be wired in series between the positive terminal of the battery and the positive feed wires to the ballast units.
The negative wires of the ballast units should be grounded to the same point as the main negative cable of the battery.

If you have any doubts or questions, you should consult with a local automotive electrical / electronics shop.
 

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Maybe a wiring error. You have to make sure you tapped into the correct wires and that the new wiring is correctly done.
Rear window defroster coming on? - Sounds like a new variation on the starter motor suddenly coming on without warning.

The relay coil should be energized by the headlight circuit. It should be fed from the low beam light wire and the other coil terminal should connect to the common wire of the light plug.
The relay contacts (NO) should be wired in series between the positive terminal of the battery and the positive feed wires to the ballast units.
The negative wires of the ballast units should be grounded to the same point as the main negative cable of the battery.

If you have any doubts or questions, you should consult with a local automotive electrical / electronics shop.
Thanks I will double check the relay later on. I should have stated earlier tho, long before I installed my HIDs I did notice that the rear defroster light would flash once when starting the car, now they just stay on when the head lights go on. Thanks.
 

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I would take a look at all the ground connection that you can easily get to - one may be loose.
 

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Just saw an interesting tid-bit on a Jeep Forum.
A poster was having HID flickering problems, like so many here reported.
A Chrysler certified sales specialist chimed in and said to remove all the HID components and send them to a place he linked to. I went to that link, it was a picture of a trash can.
I guess the PM/MK electrical systems simply don't like HID's one little bit.
 

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Chrysler are the most active of the Big 3 on member forums
They look for feedback, problems, mods, features

http://www.csmonitor.com/Business/I...laint-online-Chrysler-GM-and-Ford-will-see-it.

It's a variation on what's loosely called "reputation management",

Chrysler appears to be leading the charge on this front, thanks to the work of Pietro Gorlier, the president of Mopar brand service, parts, and customer service at Chrysler/Fiat. Before the two automakers merged in 2009, he was doing exactly this sort of "listening" work for Fiat, and now, he's applied what he learned to the entire Chrysler/Fiat family.

Part of Gorlier's strategy then involved creating brand teams to patrol key fan forums, scrolling through the seemingly endless threads. Gorlier's teams reach out to owners when they see a problem they might be able to fix, and they pass innovative ideas over to Chrysler/Fiat's research/development teams. In the past year alone, Gorlier's online staffers have posted over 3,000 messages to forums, which have generated contacts with nearly 500,000 individuals.

While Ford and GM don't seem to devote quite as much staff time to such activities, it's become part of their corporate game plan, too. Lawyers at Chrysler (and presumably at Ford and GM, too) initially objected to the idea of company reps trolling internet forums.

http://www.thecarconnection.com/new...plaints-online-chrysler-ford-gm-are-listening
 

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Yes - that is a good idea, I hope some Chrysler folks visit here too.
You get "real world" opinions from real people here.
Actually, on the Jeep forums, the Chrysler related people, plainly make themselves know.
Jeep folks are true loyalists, I guess Chrysler wants them to know that the listen and are concerned about the happiness of Jeep owners.
 

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Love it. One of my hobbies is radio controlled vehicles. There is a president of an electronics company that frequents one of the forums I go to. He clears up so many rumors that get started that otherwise would just keep floating around.
It's cool to see large manufacturers doing it as well.
 

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When this forum was started if I remember correctly
(Prop1-Brad may recall) we had a member who had
an inside track and provided a lot of info.
You could give him youe VIN and he would tell you
where your Caliber was in the assembly line/status etc.

Now that I have a Journey I frequent that forum and
we have 2 contributors 1 from Auburn Michigan customer
service and the other from Windsor Ontario customer service
who help sort out queries and problems.
 

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55w hids

Hay guys I was wondering if anyone could help me with this problem I bought a set of VVMe 55w hids and I have resistors I bought to the hids come with a built in relay on the harness I have everything on and in the correct way but I have been having problems with them not turning on when I come out of somewhere no clue why it is doing.this I am almost to my end with these hids so if anyone could help that would be great I have the high and low beam harness
 

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Hay guys I was wondering if anyone could help me with this problem I bought a set of VVMe 55w hids and I have resistors I bought to the hids come with a built in relay on the harness I have everything on and in the correct way but I have been having problems with them not turning on when I come out of somewhere no clue why it is doing.this I am almost to my end with these hids so if anyone could help that would be great I have the high and low beam harness
If I understand you correctly; the HIDs don't come on. Most likely 2 possibilities. You either only think they are wired correctly, or they are still not matched with the resistors and the TIPM has turned the power off to the circuit. These cars were never made with an electrical system compatible with HIDs. To that end; it's a real crap shoot to get any to work without issues. Those that initially got them to work were later faced with the starter engaging by itself while driving, or the TIPM going bad.
 

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Back in the "good old days" automotive electrical systems were simple and straightforward. Just about every load was controlled by a plain old switch. A plain switch cares nothing about the load it is controlling, it always does its job. HID's will usually work just fine with this system.

Nowadays, most electrical functions in cars are controlled by solid state devices (transistors) that get their "marching orders" from microprocessors, and all of the microprocessors are linked together by computer networks. These types of systems don't like electrical noise, like that generated by HID ballasts and bulbs. The noise can damage the transistors controlling the loads and even totally screw up communications on the car's computer networks. The only way HID's can work on these systems is by professional installation and sheer luck.

In the very present, and the near future, cars come with factory installed HID lighting options that are totally trouble free. This is because the HID's are engineered to produce little or no electrical noise, and computer systems that are totally immune to HID noise. And the whole setup is designed and tested to "play together" nicely.

So, if you really want HID's the best option might be to replace your existing car with with a higher end, high trim level one with factory designed and installed HID's.
 

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well i have came down to they only don't turn on when i turn them on high and back on low because they blink when i turn them on high and than blink when i turn them on low. and then i turn them off and they don't come back on so im guessing that it has something to do with a over wattage error code when they switch one resistor to the other because every time they blink it has to refire the bulb and the 55w ballast takes a lot more power to fire a 55w bulb than a 35w bulb i have not turned the highs on for a while and have not had a problem yet the only time i have a problem is when i turn them on high so i wish they would both work but they don't and i cant figure it out so i guess i will just have to scrap using the highs and just stick with the lows.
 

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Hi all,
I've try to read every post on this thread, but I'm a bit lost.

Dodge Caliber 2007 SXT Automatic
Relay harness + 2 ballast + 2 HID 8000K.

My lights are still flickering.
If I start the car, pull my handbrake, light on and down the handbrake.. My light light on and dont flick... But... I got a message like ''no bus'' and my car dont shift up when I drive and all the light are off in my dash.

If I light on and start the car, the light still flickering.
If I start the car and light on, the light still flickering.

I've try warning canceller (capacitor) = flick

So, I read from some peeps, to not use 10 ohm resistor. Some other tell to yes.

What I need to do exactly without go to the dealer.

All my ground are ok, All my wirre are well connected.

If I can use resistor, Can I use a more high Power ? like 15W or 20W ?

Thanks Bobby
 

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Hi all,
I've try to read every post on this thread, but I'm a bit lost.

Dodge Caliber 2007 SXT Automatic
Relay harness + 2 ballast + 2 HID 8000K.

My lights are still flickering.
If I start the car, pull my handbrake, light on and down the handbrake.. My light light on and dont flick... But... I got a message like ''no bus'' and my car dont shift up when I drive and all the light are off in my dash.

If I light on and start the car, the light still flickering.
If I start the car and light on, the light still flickering.

I've try warning canceller (capacitor) = flick

So, I read from some peeps, to not use 10 ohm resistor. Some other tell to yes.

What I need to do exactly without go to the dealer.

All my ground are ok, All my wirre are well connected.

If I can use resistor, Can I use a more high Power ? like 15W or 20W ?

Thanks Bobby
You have more issues than the HIDs. If you're getting a "no bus", then the IOD fuse may have some corrosion preventing full power to your whole electrical system. HIDs pull a lot of power and if you have a system issue they will just make it more obvious. Also, if you have the original battery; that can be the issue, or even an alternator going. If you don't know how to track down the issue, then you need to find an auto electrical shop.
 

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I've check my fuse and she's ok.
My battery's new and my alternator is tested ok.

many thread talk about 'no bus' problem with HID... but I've test everything they talk...
So now, I'm really lost, this is why I ask about resistor... This the last thing.. I think.

/Thanks for your fast reply\
 

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What will the resistor do for you?
Only place to put it would be on the relay. Sometimes relays are noisy and require a diode across the coil.
 

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Only place to put it would be on the relay. Sometimes relays are noisy and require a diode across the coil.
Interesting point, glad you brought it up.

Any time there is an inductive load (relay coil, solenoid coil, etc.) on a switched DC circuit, you MUST install a freewheeling diode across the coil. The diode is reverse connected - cathode to the + side of the circuit, anode to the - side.

Without it every time the circuit is switched off, a very large voltage spike (up to ten times the circuit nominal voltage) will be generated. This spike will interfere with sensitive circuits and can even do serious, irreparable damage.

I always yell at one of my equipment suppliers about this, they never install these diodes across 24VDC solenoid valve coils, and this wreaks all sorts of havoc with servo systems on the machinery, and has even damaged a few I/O modules in the PLC rack.
 

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so, if I understand, I need to install a diode on my coil and not a resistor ?
If I just use low beam, I just need 1 diode on this side ?

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so, if I understand, I need to install a diode on my coil and not a resistor ?
If I just use low beam, I just need 1 diode on this side ?

Thanks
You need one across each relay.
 
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