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The MY10 Caliber has dropped the 1.8 world engine.

I found a breakdown for each model showing the popularity of each option

MY 07
Available engines for 2007 Dodge Caliber:
* 4 Cylinders B 2.0L SFI DOHC (found in 83% of 2007 Dodge Caliber)
* 4 Cylinders C 1.8L SFI DOHC (found in 4% of 2007 Dodge Caliber)
* 4 Cylinders K 2.4L SFI DOHC (found in 13% of 2007 Dodge Caliber)

MY 08
Available engines for 2008 Dodge Caliber:
* 4 Cylinders B 2.0L SFI DOHC (found in 87% of 2008 Dodge Caliber)
* 4 Cylinders C 1.8L SFI DOHC (found in 4% of 2008 Dodge Caliber)
* 4 Cylinders F 2.4L SFI Turbo DOHC
* 4 Cylinders K 2.4L SFI DOHC (found in 9% of 2008 Dodge Caliber)

MY09
Available engines for 2009 Dodge Caliber:
* 4 Cylinders A 2.0L FI DOHC (found in 93% of 2009 Dodge Caliber)
* 4 Cylinders B 2.4L FI DOHC (found in 6% of 2009 Dodge Caliber)
* 4 Cylinders C 1.8L SFI DOHC (found in 1% of 2009 Dodge Caliber)
* 4 Cylinders F 2.4L SFI Turbo DOHC
 

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interesting......
but there is no diesel listed
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Diesel isnt listed in USA, plus the 1.8 is a poor underpowered unit not reallly capable of hauling a heavy car like Caliber around. The better 2 litre is only slightly less economical & those extra 200cc make a world of difference!!
 

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They should have offered only the 2.0 with a 6 speed or the CVT for the low end Calibers. Compete directly against the Sentra.

That said, I have the 1.8 with the 5 speed. I find that it has enough power for 2 occupants getting around town with speeds up to 40 mph. Getting on to a highway I have rev'd the engine to 4K+ to get it fast enough for the next gear. It has enough power to stay with the pack on the highway. The car could use a 6 speed since the engine turns at 2300+ rpm at 70. add a gear and it might have be turning 1900-2000. there is enough torque to keep it in 6th for most US highway.

It has less power than the 5.0 V8 Mustang I have, but I do not find it as lame as you infer. My 68 hp 1.6l Ford Escort was lame.
 

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The 1.8L is fine as long as you accept the need to rev it a little when you need it. But I have to admit, if the choice had been available 3 years ago, I would've choosen the 2.0L and MTX combo.

Still, it would have been nice of Dodge to jump on the occasion to offer a CRD for MY2010.
 

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Forget about CRD in the americas. It's been said before: a technology exchange agreement with WV doesn't give them access to the CRD for domestic models. Just exports. it's also the reason why it's detuned: not to compete with TDI and the real Common Rails engines over there.

Also, I've had strong opinions that there's been one too many engine option on this car.

I think, though, that the 1.8 is not the superfluous one.

This would me MY lineup if I had anything to say about it:

  • SE: 1.8L 5spd
  • SXT: 2.4L 5spd, optional CVT, optional AWD
  • Export: CRD
  • Intl: High-end SRT4
I feel the R/T AWD doesn't deserve the R/T name tag. It's detrimental to other R/Ts out there. I'm rather biased on this however…

The 2L is I think a nuisance to the line. It's too close in-between the other two engines to make much sense. You either want economy or something with a tad more performance for hauling families or a light trailer.

The export CRD, I'm not even sure if it make sense but if they want to keep a hold of europe, they NEED that. Is it a good seller there? I dont have numbers. Anyone has?

It would be super sweet to have an AWD SRT4 but we wont see that I think.
 

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wow alot of engines choices. sometimes thats a good thing sometimes it not....
 

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Those numbers are for the US and show with only 1% of 09 buyers choosing a 1.8 there was little value keeping it. The higher figure for 07 would have included fleet sales.

The MY10 diesel is the 2.2 Mercedes to replace the VW.
The diesel numbers would have been limited but in any case Chrysler could not sell all the ones they had.

Sales figures that have been released have been referenced on our site. Sometimes it is by brand sometimes model rarely gas/diesel across the range. I have never seen a breakdown of actual sales for the Caliber split between gas and diesel. There have been forecasts by Chrysler and fleet buyers of 'expected' take up of diesel or gas optioons. For the Caliber it was 50 %, Journey was 86% Diesel, Avenger 70-80%, Nitro 95%.

Even with those reports Chrysler still had to massively discount cheaper Gas versions to move them.

There were no percentages for the turbo so either SRT4 was treated as a separate model OR numbers are fewer than 1.8 Calibers (rounded down to 0%)
 

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I dont see why they could put the CRD in the Caliber that is in the Liberty...
The Liberty does not have one.
The Grand Cherokee had one in 2008 but that was a v6 3.0l - too big for the Cali.
 

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I've seen a used diesel Liberty for sale on a local t.v. commercial. I think the liberty is rated as a truck, so it can have a diesel engine? Maybe? lol!!!
 

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they need to scrap the 1.8 engine if they still have the very close 2.0 in production its a waste of money and they are bankrupt still right???
 

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Reasons like this is why Chrysler has gone bankrupt twice.
 

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I was looking at current models. There was a diesel Liberty back in 2005 and earlier Cherokee.
Anyone have a site that can easily show model configuration across the years and values?
 

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Wow, I am in the 1% figure who bought a 1.8L 5 Speed 09 SXT.

Ill gladly sell it for the disgusting amount that the bank ****ed me for. over 6 years at 6.89% = $25,000 CDN. who knew 2 months later the whole manufacturing market would crash and I could have gotten it $10,000 cheaper.
 

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Forget about CRD in the americas.
The export CRD, I'm not even sure if it make sense but if they want to keep a hold of europe, they NEED that. Is it a good seller there? I dont have numbers. Anyone has?
The MY10 diesel is the 2.2 Mercedes to replace the VW.
The diesel numbers would have been limited but in any case Chrysler could not sell all the ones they had.

Sales figures that have been released have been referenced on our site. Sometimes it is by brand sometimes model rarely gas/diesel across the range. I have never seen a breakdown of actual sales for the Caliber split between gas and diesel. There have been forecasts by Chrysler and fleet buyers of 'expected' take up of diesel or gas optioons. For the Caliber it was 50 %, Journey was 86% Diesel, Avenger 70-80%, Nitro 95%.
The Liberty does not have one.
The Grand Cherokee had one in 2008 but that was a v6 3.0l - too big for the Cali.
In Canada the Diesel Jeep Grand Cherokee CRD outsells the gas version.
 

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How many Calibers ??

Total world sales figures for the Dodge Caliber

2007 157,562

2008 132,668

2009 70,000 (projection) ... . . . . (Chrysler spokesman Dan Reid)

2009 YTD USA 29,160

Less than half the FY forecast for 2/3 year, includes manic clunkers, and no MY10s for remainder. Sorry Dan.
 

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Dodge Caliber company plan
2009 70,000 (projection) ... . . . . Chrysler spokesman Dan Reid

US 2009 year to end of November
Month Sales Vol % Sales CYTD Vol %
Model Curr Yr Pr Yr Change Curr Yr Pr Yr Change

Caliber 412 2,755 -85% 30,809 81,262 -62%
Compass 474 880 -46% 10,826 24,124 -55%
Patriot 1,929 2,461 -22% 28,673 53,057 -46%

So that's a miss then Dan ?

Business Rockford Sep 01, 2009
Chrysler Group LLC will not make the Dodge Caliber SRT4 for 2010 so it can focus on higher-volume versions of the car.
Chrysler spokesman Dan Reid said consumers shouldn’t read too much into the decision.
“Dodge Caliber SRT4 was planned for a limited production run,” Reid wrote in an e-mail.
Chrysler doesn’t break SRT sales out of the Caliber’s total. The Caliber, like almost every other vehicle in the world, has been hurt by the global recession. Dealers worldwide are on pace to sell about 72,000 Calibers this year, compared with 132,668 in 2008 and 157,562 in 2007.
 

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with the caliber being dropped after 2012 maybe the r/t with the 2.4 engine and the se with the 1.8 engines will be more valuable in future since they made less of those engines:jok:
 
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