Wheels manually moving by hand, no key in ignition.
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    Default Wheels manually moving by hand, no key in ignition.

    Hello,

    I will try to keep this short. I recently posted a question about correct parts for for rear toe links and and upper lateral links. I also have to replace my front drivers side ball joint. I am just going to order the Moog control arm with ball joint assembly and make things easier. However, today when I was messing around with the front driver side wheel; I notice I was able to completely move the steering from left to right by hand with no key in ignition... Is this normal? If not, what should I be looking at for a problem. I also got in the car and turned the steering wheel with no key in, and am able to move the steering from left to right. It does not lock. I released the jack stands so the car was flat on the ground, and again was able to kick the tires to make them turn...

    Facts - I know front drivers side ball joint is loose as dealership inspected on extended warranty of cross members. They didn't point anything else out about front end suspension or steering.
    - Car feels like it is sliding when wet or snowing. If drivers right wheel hits a patch of snow the whole care feels like it is sliding from left to right with no steering, same if the left tire hits a patch of snow. If it is raining out, car feels uncontrollable anywhere above 70km/h. Can this all be caused by a ball joint? It just doesn't make sense to me that I can manually turn steering by grabbing the tire and pulling with no key in ignition.

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    It sounds like the mechanism in the steering column that locks the steering wheel in place when the key has been removed has failed. That's the only thing preventing one from being able to grab a front wheel and manually rotate them left and right.

    Make sure you get the Moog "Problem Solver" control arm with the grease fitting, not the "regular" one they sell with the sealed ball joint. The latter did not last more than a year on my car before it failed. It was replaced with a "Problem Solver" that's still going strong. I have to grease it twice a year when I change the oil, but that only takes 2 minutes.

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    Thanks Chrisf2012 for the tip. I will definitely be purchasing the problem solver tonight

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