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Quiet Lunatic
05-10-2007, 05:35 PM
I am getting an intake for my sxt tomorrow and will hopefully be posting some pics of it when it is installed, just to let everyone know
EXcaliber07
05-10-2007, 06:37 PM
Which one are you installing?
Quiet Lunatic
05-11-2007, 08:35 AM
Well actually it is a prototype from INJEN. A friend of mine lives in CA and INJEN tells people on their website what cars they are looking for, for R&D and he went up with his caliber and they just gave it to him, so i have convinced him to send it to me. Will let everyone know how it goes. It will be cheaper than the MOPAR one and supposively better, I mean you have to buy the intake,header,and cat-back exhaust from MOPAR just to get aropund 12 horses and the cost is somewhere around 1,200 dollars. 100 dollars a horse no thank you
HighestCaliber07
05-11-2007, 08:42 AM
is it the same one that was posted on ebay?
Quiet Lunatic
05-11-2007, 11:43 AM
yes it was, we actually have already installed it on my car and it is awesome. i will have the pics up in a bit but its pretty rad though.
Quiet Lunatic
05-11-2007, 12:52 PM
Here Are The Pics Of Before And After The Install
Zonestar
05-11-2007, 02:56 PM
Good pictures, after you have driven for a couple weeks let us know if you feel any difference. Is the filter a paper or one that needs a coating fluid?
Quiet Lunatic
05-11-2007, 02:58 PM
a coating fluid i will defintely be letting yall know
EXcaliber07
05-11-2007, 03:50 PM
Is it much louder now? Because I think that my K&N CAI is a little on the loud side. Part of the reason I believe, is that the air intake faces the firewall, basically pointing all the sound right at you. Wish there were an alternative to the placement of the CAI, sadly right now there is not.:(
Quiet Lunatic
05-11-2007, 04:57 PM
Well it is loud but i have to agree with your reasoning on why its loud. If it was facing the other way it would be just as loud just not to the people in the car, when you took the box off to put it in you took off the part that softened the noise also
Zonestar
05-11-2007, 05:11 PM
letting yall know
Do you live here in GA?
EXcaliber07
05-11-2007, 05:17 PM
Could be S.C., I think there is a Greenville there.:D
Quiet Lunatic
05-11-2007, 05:34 PM
I actually live inTX, I am about 35-40 miles East of Dallas.
EXcaliber07
05-11-2007, 05:41 PM
I actually live inTX, I am about 35-40 miles East of Dallas.
LOL....boy were we wrong!:o It's a big country, I'm sure just about every state has a Greenville.:D
gmcgown
05-11-2007, 06:25 PM
Here Are The Pics Of Before And After The Install
If it's got a chome throttle body it's got to be faster!
Quiet Lunatic
05-11-2007, 06:28 PM
Well actually it is a prototype from INJEN. A friend of mine lives in CA and INJEN tells people on their website what cars they are looking for, for R&D and he went up with his caliber and they just gave it to him, so i have convinced him to send it to me. Will let everyone know how it goes. It will be cheaper than the MOPAR one and supposively better, I mean you have to buy the intake,header,and cat-back exhaust from MOPAR just to get aropund 12 horses and the cost is somewhere around 1,200 dollars. 100 dollars a horse no thank you
Ask any motor head....
That is what you can realistically figure for HP... $100 per pony..unless your talking about NOS
dcjredline
05-11-2007, 08:59 PM
Um I disagree on that, The headers for my Formula (SLP) are supposed to be 15-20 HP and they do not cost $2000.
I think $20-50 per HP is more like it.
EXcaliber07
05-12-2007, 05:25 AM
Um I disagree on that, The headers for my Formula (SLP) are supposed to be 15-20 HP and they do not cost $2000.
I think $20-50 per HP is more like it.
I don't think wickster was too far off, when considering 4 cylinder upgrades. Any 8 cylinder mods will gain more HP for the money, it's a given!:D
dcjredline
05-12-2007, 08:04 AM
I don't think wickster was too far off, when considering 4 cylinder upgrades. Any 8 cylinder mods will gain more HP for the money, it's a given!:D
Maybe then the statement should be $100 per HP for a 4 cyl. Hows that?
EXcaliber07
05-12-2007, 11:23 AM
Maybe then the statement should be $100 per HP for a 4 cyl. Hows that?
I guess it depends on what you buy, and what else in conjunction with that item can help it gain more HP. $100 per HP may have been a slight exageration, but it doesn't really matter anyway, right? :D
Quiet Lunatic
05-12-2007, 01:32 PM
I will agree with you have to spend a little more to get more witha 4cylinder engine. My origianl statement was to be taken as mopar is the only available right now. Go to any website, Injen,AEM,etc. no one has a make for it yet on anything. If I am going to spen a 100 a HP I would like to buy the brand I want. Not a fan of Mopar, will settle because it is what Dodge makes. So you know I am a motorhead. I'm not some dork who is just frivelously modding my caliber to be cool.
EXcaliber07
05-12-2007, 01:54 PM
Mopar has the only what? There are plenty of performance parts made by other companies. K&N has a CAI, Magnaflow has an exhaust......Mopar isn't the only game in town.:D
J. Kirsch
05-12-2007, 02:49 PM
Wish there were an alternative to the placement of the CAI, sadly right now there is not.:(
Stove-pipe is up thru the hood and now you've got an old-fashioned velocity stack.:loser1:
God I'm bored at work today... C'mon 5:00......:cool:
Joe
EXcaliber07
05-12-2007, 03:41 PM
Seriously, in another thread I said that I installed the K&N CAI, and was a little disappointed on it's noise level. After about a week now I still have it in, as it became a little more quiet over time......still noisy, but a little better. I think the air sensor had to settle in and adjust. I still believe that the direction of the CAI is the main reason for all the noise. If there were a possibilty to route it another direction, it may lessen the sound you hear through the firewall.
albert
05-12-2007, 07:41 PM
How is the milage? Has it improved, document it over time and let us know. What about performance, does it feal faster? Do 0-60 timing tests before and after.
EXcaliber07
05-12-2007, 07:50 PM
How is the milage? Has it improved, document it over time and let us know. What about performance, does it feal faster? Do 0-60 timing tests before and after.
I don't have mileage because I havent had it in long enough. 0-60 times are now impossible as I did't do a before time, but how acurate can that be anyway. As far as performance, I highly doubt it out weighs the sound that you hear:str: ....you get used to it, but it is quite loud. Tomorrow I'm making a trip out to Pennsylvania, I'll set the cruise control and drive it normally, to see how the milage was affected. I'll eventually take a video to post up, so everyone can hear it too.;)
EXcaliber07
05-13-2007, 09:08 PM
Well the verdict is out, but I'm not sure that it's 100%. I filled my tank up before leaving to Pennsylvania. Drove 211.8 miles round trip and refilled the tank (in the same pump). It took 7.5 gallons to fill up. 211.8 divided by 7.5 = 28.24 MPG.:wow: I'm blown away, prior to that the best I got was 25.49 MPG, but I'll do some averaging during the week to see how that goes. If the trend continues, looks like the CAI increased my gas milage.:D
Quiet Lunatic
05-14-2007, 08:27 AM
I am totally in agreement over the fact that other companies do have some performance parts. If you go to any/most of their websites they wont even have a selection for the 2007 dodge caliber on it. If you can send me a link to someone who has a different header out there,a different exhaust then so be it but i have yet to find more than maybe one
EXcaliber07
05-14-2007, 04:11 PM
I am totally in agreement over the fact that other companies do have some performance parts. If you go to any/most of their websites they wont even have a selection for the 2007 dodge caliber on it. If you can send me a link to someone who has a different header out there,a different exhaust then so be it but i have yet to find more than maybe one
The Mopar header is the only one available that I know of, but here is a Magnaflow exhaust.................http://www.planetmagnaflow.com/shop/magnaflow-16759-501.html
Quiet Lunatic
05-14-2007, 05:02 PM
Well the maganflow exhaust system has been DYNO'd at 10hp and 5ft.lbs of torque. Which is pretty cool. Also on their website their is no price so I called them this morning and it is 481.76. In case your interested
albert
05-14-2007, 05:45 PM
Well the maganflow exhaust system has been DYNO'd at 10hp and 5ft.lbs of torque. Which is pretty cool. Also on their website their is no price so I called them this morning and it is 481.76. In case your interested
performancecenter.com has it for the AWD for $334.99, that is why I purchased mine through them.
EXcaliber07
05-14-2007, 05:49 PM
performancecenter.com has it for the AWD for $334.99, that is why I purchased mine through them.
They only seem to have it for the 2.4, doesn't help him out, nice find though.:D I'm dying to hear that exhaust, when you getting that put in?;)
Quiet Lunatic
05-15-2007, 10:00 AM
well if anyone can help me out because i am trying not only to find a header and exhaust i am also looking for springs. i seem to have found my exhaust though with magnaflow. appreciate it
EXcaliber07
05-15-2007, 06:14 PM
well if anyone can help me out because i am trying not only to find a header and exhaust i am also looking for springs. i seem to have found my exhaust though with magnaflow. appreciate it
Here's a link to eibach, they have two kits available...http://eibach.com/cgi-bin/htmlos.exe/0221.3.3096769920900030724 ;) :D
EXcaliber07
05-16-2007, 07:10 PM
well if anyone can help me out because i am trying not only to find a header and exhaust i am also looking for springs. i seem to have found my exhaust though with magnaflow. appreciate it
here's a header I found today that is not mopar....http://www.howellautomotive.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=1737
Quiet Lunatic
05-17-2007, 11:04 AM
Thank you very much, because that website not only has the header it has the suspension and grill that i am looking for.
Quiet Lunatic
05-17-2007, 12:44 PM
Here is the DC sports header for a little cheaper
http://www.ultrarev.com/search.php?mode=search
EXcaliber07
05-17-2007, 03:56 PM
Here is the DC sports header for a little cheaper
http://www.ultrarev.com/search.php?mode=search
Truthfully I didn't do a search to find the cheapest price, just wanted to find it for you fast!:D
Quiet Lunatic
05-19-2007, 10:16 AM
Thats fine was just posting it on here for anyone esle who is interested
Calibee
05-19-2007, 10:55 AM
100 dollars a horse no thank you
I'll pay the hun for a horse, is it house broken? :o
fiftycaliber
06-20-2007, 12:25 AM
OH I think it is so funny that people dont like that beautiful roar that pours from beneath the hood when you really get on the throttle, I put a K&N CAI on my caliber and I love the sound of power, to tell you the truth , i wish it was louder , but since it is made out of plastic , it is a little muffled, but i guess to each his own , I am new to this site but i really enjoy having a place to go to talk about my car. Thanks for what you all are doing.
Quiet Lunatic
06-22-2007, 05:15 PM
I dont have a problem with the noise just was telling people to be careful that is gonna be significantly louder than before due to its design. So there you go
rivasx
08-14-2007, 12:47 PM
I thougt I saw a longer CAI on the web for the Caliber if I find it again I will put it here but my question is if there is a longer one like the ones that go down to the front of the car. Which one is better to have, the long CAI that goes to the front bumber or the Short one in the hood?
Prop1
08-14-2007, 01:40 PM
I thougt I saw a longer CAI on the web for the Caliber if I find it again I will put it here but my question is if there is a longer one like the ones that go down to the front of the car. Which one is better to have, the long CAI that goes to the front bumber or the Short one in the hood?
There isn't one for the Caliber that goes down in front, because there is no way to get it there due to the layout of things under the hood. Your only choices are the ones that suck hot air from under the hood, or the K&N that has a housing that utilizes the existing battery cover intake to draw air from outside the hood area.
mouser
08-14-2007, 01:46 PM
It would be nice to find an after-market hood or hood add-on to have a scoop (much like what Subarus have) to get fresh air into the heat-shielded cone setups.
EXcaliber07
08-14-2007, 07:33 PM
I thougt I saw a longer CAI on the web for the Caliber if I find it again I will put it here but my question is if there is a longer one like the ones that go down to the front of the car. Which one is better to have, the long CAI that goes to the front bumber or the Short one in the hood?
Prop1 is right, you may have just seen an example of another CAI. If there were another option, someone here would know about it.;) :D
LLSJ07
08-14-2007, 08:45 PM
Prop1 is right, you may have just seen an example of another CAI. If there were another option, someone here would know about it.;) :D
like this maybe.
www.*********************/engine/index.php?action=s_search&mode=products
Prop1
08-14-2007, 09:29 PM
like this maybe.
www.*********************/engine/index.php?action=s_search&mode=products (http://www.*********************/engine/index.php?action=s_search&mode=products)
I wish I could believe what I see in the picture, but I won't believe it until somebody actually buys one. If you look at the existing intake tube, it attaches to the lower front of the engine. So why is the one in the picture so long? If it's suppose to scoop air from under the car it would only have to be a short tube. That one with all the bends and length would have to wind up in the same corner as the existing filter box.:rolleyes:
EXcaliber07
08-15-2007, 05:30 AM
I wish I could believe what I see in the picture, but I won't believe it until somebody actually buys one. If you look at the existing intake tube, it attaches to the lower front of the engine. So why is the one in the picture so long? If it's suppose to scoop air from under the car it would only have to be a short tube. That one with all the bends and length would have to wind up in the same corner as the existing filter box.:rolleyes:
I don't trust it either, and why are there two different prices, yet the description is the same. I wonder if they are just pushing the same mopar CAI that we all know. If there is a true CAI that they are offering, they need to supply the pictures of the exact CAI intended for the Caliber with it installed. If it was a true CAI that faced away from the firewall, I'm going to buy it!!!!
mouser
08-15-2007, 06:33 AM
The prices for these tubes are outrageous.
rivasx
08-15-2007, 10:23 AM
Thats the website I was talking about those are the pics I saw. So Question if it did exist would it be better?
mouser
08-15-2007, 10:31 AM
Thats the website I was talking about those are the pics I saw. So Question if it did exist would it be better?
Possibly but there's a risk for the cone to grab a lot of road dirt and puddles. Cleaning the cone would be more of a hassle as you'd have to dismount the entire tubing (or get to the cone from underneath the car--not very practical).
rivasx
08-15-2007, 10:49 AM
Cool thanks mouser I will have to think about that if one comes out. maybe if I take the bumper off(only takes me 5min) it would be easier to clean. But who knows if they will eventually make one.
langmui85
08-15-2007, 11:12 AM
I was just wondering if anyone has the secret weapon r intake. i saw it on ebay and was just wondering if anyone knows anything about it.
rivasx
08-15-2007, 11:31 AM
yeah same here I saw that one too and was wondering if it was any good cuz everyone here talks about the Mopar and K&N CAIs.
Prop1
08-15-2007, 12:47 PM
Possibly but there's a risk for the cone to grab a lot of road dirt and puddles. Cleaning the cone would be more of a hassle as you'd have to dismount the entire tubing (or get to the cone from underneath the car--not very practical).
I've read on multiple sites about performance mods, that the CAI that scoops air from under the car are "fair weather" intakes. They are not recommended on dusty roads, or wet conditions. I'd have to think twice about buying something that I'd have to remove, or not drive my car because the weather or road conditions weren't correct.:shakehead:
albert
08-15-2007, 04:44 PM
like this maybe.
www.*********************/engine/index.php?action=s_search&mode=products (http://www.*********************/engine/index.php?action=s_search&mode=products)
Unless Mopar has re-designed their CAI, it actually looks like the following link.
http://www.buymopar.com/store/caliber.html
Prop1
08-15-2007, 05:17 PM
Unless Mopar has re-designed their CAI, it actually looks like the following link.
http://www.buymopar.com/store/caliber.html
Looking at both side by side:
http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q13/RugbyProp1/intake.jpghttp://www.buymopar.com/store/Caliber/coldair.jpg
There is a difference, if you can trust the photos. It almost looks like the one on the left, where the hose clamps are, is where the filter would attach if it was the right one. So every thing after the hose clamps is new. I can't figure out for the life of me how it would be routed.:confused:
J. Kirsch
08-15-2007, 05:57 PM
Mount it upside down and stick it up thru the hood like a snorkel?:i_rolleyes:
Joe
albert
08-17-2007, 04:48 PM
Mount it upside down and stick it up thru the hood like a snorkel?:i_rolleyes:
Joe
That is somethign that would actually work as a CAI.
albert
08-17-2007, 04:49 PM
Looking at both side by side:
http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q13/RugbyProp1/intake.jpghttp://www.buymopar.com/store/Caliber/coldair.jpg
There is a difference, if you can trust the photos. It almost looks like the one on the left, where the hose clamps are, is where the filter would attach if it was the right one. So every thing after the hose clamps is new. I can't figure out for the life of me how it would be routed.:confused:
I bet that they are using the wrong picture. The part numbers for both items listed are the same.
mouser
08-17-2007, 06:48 PM
That is somethign that would actually work as a CAI.
Yeah. Oh so very pretty...
https://www.expeditionexchange.com/safetydevices/DSC04713.jpg
... on a SUV.
EXcaliber07
08-17-2007, 07:10 PM
That is a snorkle, and it's intention is to be able to go into deep water and not suck any in. It's not intended for performance, but it may since it is drawing in the coldest possible air.
Prop1
08-17-2007, 07:26 PM
To be exact, it's mounted on a Land Rover G4 Discovery. Not only does it allow for wading in deep water, it also helps keep the intake above the heavier dust from vehicles in front.
EXcaliber07
08-17-2007, 07:30 PM
To be exact, it's mounted on a Land Rover G4 Discovery. Not only does it allow for wading in deep water, it also helps keep the intake above the heavier dust from vehicles in front.
Oh yeah! and that too!!!!;) :D
mouser
08-17-2007, 08:02 PM
Imagine this thing hooked up to a vented & filtered roof cargo box filed with ice :cool::cool:
EXcaliber07
08-17-2007, 08:06 PM
Why not just run a hose from your A/C vent to the intake.:p :D
mouser
08-17-2007, 08:11 PM
Yeah I wondered about that once but the law of thermodynamics tell me that a closed circuit cycle like that would not generate more power than what it takes to run it.
I suppose the added benefit of the A/C going in would not compensate for the power consumption of running the A/C in the first place.
It'd be fun to try though. :loser1:
EXcaliber07
08-17-2007, 08:16 PM
Yeah I wondered about that once but the law of thermodynamics tell me that a closed circuit cycle like that would not generate more power than what it takes to run it.
I suppose the added benefit of the A/C going in would not compensate for the power consumption of running the A/C in the first place.
It'd be fun to try though. :loser1:
LOL! I knew that, but I'm thinking someone out there tried that.:eek: :shakehead:
mouser
08-17-2007, 08:35 PM
:D:D:D
I found a kit (http://www.marineair.com/manuals/coolmate/)!!!!!
Meh. We can dream.
EXcaliber07
08-17-2007, 08:47 PM
That's one seriously long extention cord you'll need to power that thing.....LOL!;)
mouser
08-17-2007, 08:53 PM
It's perfect for NASCAR oval circuits.
albert
08-18-2007, 01:51 PM
:D:D:D
I found a kit (http://www.marineair.com/manuals/coolmate/)!!!!!
Meh. We can dream.
That is a great idea, but in the end it will probably draw more than it is making, and at the end of the day NOS is a better solution.
focusnme
09-05-2007, 09:22 PM
well i design cold air intakes - and just bought my caliber and am now plasmaing up 3 aluminium joints and have 2 functional intakes - 1 full intake and 1 short ram intake - because im trying to secure a srt4 hood - so it must be a functional hood - will post pics soon
mouser
09-05-2007, 11:11 PM
well i design cold air intakes - and just bought my caliber and am now plasmaing up 3 aluminium joints and have 2 functional intakes - 1 full intake and 1 short ram intake - because im trying to secure a srt4 hood - so it must be a functional hood - will post pics soon
From the pics I've seen, it doesn't look like the SRT4 hood actually fits. The front grill doesn't seem to sit like ours next to the hood and I would expect there would be some length difference.
It might be a false impression but I've been eyeing that hood myself.
Now, if I can actually solve my car problem, I might actually go ahead and make my own fiberglass hood with functional ram air (if only for a true CAI).
But I've had my silly idea of a looks for a Caliber hood...
newratik
09-15-2007, 06:03 PM
I got a cheaper CAI intake solution from "blinglights" seen here on ebay (http://cgi.ebay.ca/2006-2008-Dodge-Caliber-Air-Intake-System-07-se-sxt-rt_W0QQitemZ220149547539QQihZ012QQcategoryZ38634QQ ssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)
it seems ok, I took it back out for a bit, I'm not sure I like the increase in noise, but the performance seems to be there, but it is hard to tell.
It comes with terrible instructions, and i've been consfused, as i am not an engine expert by any means anyway my question is this Its a short pipe with a open cone filter and it does not have any provisions for the large diamater vacume hose off of the original filter box. can any one tell me what this is and can i just block it off with its own filter?
mouser
09-15-2007, 06:16 PM
Hrm. Nice find. Ya got rep for that one.
A no-oil CAI sounds very appealing. I might be interested in finding out for myself.
My stupid CVT's been behaving like a charm these days so I might start looking at pepping up the car a bit.
newratik
09-18-2007, 12:42 AM
Thanks dude, it seems cool, but I am still curious about that vacuum tube ...
mouser
09-18-2007, 07:39 AM
You talking about the head cam air vacuum vent?
This setup looks like a small intake tube. It's my impression that it connects onto the stock intake hose, right where the air box is, and therefore past the vacum hose which remains in-place with the stock intake tubing.
That's what I assume it is but I can't measure their hose length.
bigtsr
09-18-2007, 07:46 AM
Possibly the PCV (positive crank ventilation) hose is what he
is referring to,you must have this in place or can lead to
many problems as it is in engine spec design.
Quiet Lunatic
09-18-2007, 07:59 AM
well i design cold air intakes - and just bought my caliber and am now plasmaing up 3 aluminium joints and have 2 functional intakes - 1 full intake and 1 short ram intake - because im trying to secure a srt4 hood - so it must be a functional hood - will post pics soon
the srt4 hood IS longer than the regular calibers. They had to Bump out both the Hood and Front Facia/Grill to accomodate the intercooler for the turbo.
mouser
09-18-2007, 07:33 PM
Ah yes. I had forgotten the name of that thing: PCV valve & hose. Had to replace it on my Sunfire at some point.
It's important to vent this sucker because air/gas mixture tends to build up in the head cam block and spontaneous combustion (due to engine heat) might occur and truly screw up your cams/valves.
So, anyone tinkering with intake, make sure your connect the PCV vale to your intake to vent the gas out.
mouser
09-19-2007, 06:23 AM
I got a cheaper CAI intake solution from "blinglights" seen here on ebay (http://cgi.ebay.ca/2006-2008-Dodge-Caliber-Air-Intake-System-07-se-sxt-rt_W0QQitemZ220149547539QQihZ012QQcategoryZ38634QQ ssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)
it seems ok, I took it back out for a bit, I'm not sure I like the increase in noise, but the performance seems to be there, but it is hard to tell.
It comes with terrible instructions, and i've been consfused, as i am not an engine expert by any means anyway my question is this Its a short pipe with a open cone filter and it does not have any provisions for the large diamater vacume hose off of the original filter box. can any one tell me what this is and can i just block it off with its own filter?
bla bla bla
Thanks dude, it seems cool, but I am still curious about that vacuum tube ...
Sometimes, we just need to ask. I sent them an email and they replied:
Hi
The intake includes a rubber adapter. This adapter can be used to connect any vacuum hoses or pcv valve hoses. Let me know if you have anymore questions.
DBlock
09-19-2007, 12:02 PM
I just purchased K&N Intake for my SXT Caliber 2.0 can wait to it comes read a lot about it thru this site. Is my first time installing an Intake on any vehicle well i'm not going to install my Best Friends Dad is a mechanic (old school) he is going to install it for me. Will post pics once is installed.
albert
09-19-2007, 04:36 PM
Just realize it will be a lot lot louder than you think. It puts the air filter close to the driver, and it is noisey. My 3.5L V6 Charger K&N CAI is very quiet by comparrison. I wrapped my Calibers K&N Cai with 2 layers of dynaliner, and it still is mutiple times louder than the K&N CAI on my Charger.
mouser
09-19-2007, 09:09 PM
Hehe... I had a double-coned K&N in my GMC Safari :D :D
newratik
09-23-2007, 10:49 PM
Thanks mouser I need to send them another email, I didn't get any additional pieces.
and yes it is really really loud, so loud I'm not sure i want to keep it in, its a nice deep noise, and it sounds cool and powerful, i just don't care for additional noise in the cabin ...
shawnroche
09-24-2007, 07:35 AM
So may i ask what the purpose of that shiny instrument is??
mouser
09-24-2007, 07:57 AM
So may i ask what the purpose of that shiny instrument is??
The cold air intakes?
Think of your engine as an air pump (that's basically what it is really).
Air is sucked in, expanded in the combustion of gas, causing extra pressure to push the pistons and then expelled through the exhaust system.
The sucking in of air would normally produce a hell of a lot of sound if unrestricted. Therefore, car manufacturers tune the air intake box to cushion the incoming air so that noise is reduced.
What's really happening is that the engine who would normally suck air so rapidly it would produce a popping sound as it enters the cylinder at every breath, end ups aspirating through a nosel that restricts incoming air speed through negative air pressure: the intake hole is smaller than the cylinder aspiration requires and the air box acts as a balloon. Note that the air box doesn't grow/shrink in size but rather the interior pressure changes gradually in-between each aspiration. It's basically the reverse of a muffler.
This aspiration process takes away some power from the engine. By replacing the stock intake with a higher performing air filter system and an unrestricted air flow, you end up giving back some horsies to your car. The average depending on make is 5-10%.
The same thing happens with exhaust. Air is compressed through the muffler yielding positive air pressure that the engine must keep pushing against. Instead of air bursting out of the engine unrestricted (which would produce rapid explosion sounds like a backfire), the exploding hot air is cushioned into a chamber which forces gas to come out in a more gradual flow of air as the muffler "deflates" in-between cylinder discharges.
A high performance muffler also gives back some HP to your car, in pretty much the same range as CAIs do.
The tradeoff for both systems is sound output. In both case, you end up with a noisier car. Expensive exhaust system actually tune the noise for specific growling tones making your engine sound a bit beefier than they really are.
With a good CAI and exhaust, you could probably bring your Caliber from 172 to 190 hp.
shawnroche
09-24-2007, 08:03 AM
I would love to make my car "growl" so any ideas of what parts i should buy to get a nice sounding growl? :D pls pls pls (country town large trucks i wanna sound like them but look nicer !
mouser
09-24-2007, 09:06 AM
Well, the K&N Cold Air Intake ("CAI") that has the heat shield would provide both a power boost (~8hp according to their dyno tests) and a deeper growl.
As for exhaust, Magnaflow have some nice setups as I hear but I would prefer let others direct you--I've not installed a high-flow exhaust in any car since my 96 Sunfire so I wouldn't have good info for you.
shawnroche
09-24-2007, 09:20 AM
Well, the K&N Cold Air Intake ("CAI") that has the heat shield would provide both a power boost (~8hp according to their dyno tests) and a deeper growl.
As for exhaust, Magnaflow have some nice setups as I hear but I would prefer let others direct you--I've not installed a high-flow exhaust in any car since my 96 Sunfire so I wouldn't have good info for you.
thankyou still any input is good input unless its bad input :D
albert
09-24-2007, 05:04 PM
I would love to make my car "growl" so any ideas of what parts i should buy to get a nice sounding growl? :D pls pls pls (country town large trucks i wanna sound like them but look nicer !
I have documented every mod I have done to my Caliber. If you want an idea of how it will sound before and after go to youtube for videos that demonstrate various driving speeds.
Stock driving easy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOBgurj6Dzw
K&N CAI driving easy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsWq2AxON90
K&N CAI driving harder.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0w1Q734gSTw
For all other videos, search for n9iagalbert (http://www.youtube.com/user/n9iagalbert) You will find all my videos. My digital camera is not great, but it does a decent job at demonstrating how it sounds with different mods.
shawnroche
09-24-2007, 06:02 PM
how much for that and were did u get it/ how hard to install?
albert
09-24-2007, 06:41 PM
Somethign like $200-$250. It was easier after I installed it one time to take it off and back on the second time. It was a little bit dificult, but if you take your time, plan for some time it is not to bad. The hard part was getting to the screw to tighten the clamp on the throddle body. I had to use a very long screw driver to get down to it. Either you need a stubby one, or a very long one, but plan for the tools before time.
The sensor was a bit of a pain, because I was afraid of breaking it. I also ended up cutting off the wire tie that you place a bold over to hold the clamp, but in all the part most dificult part was the tight space by the throddle body.
I installed a K&N CAI on my V6 Charger, and by comparrison the charger was very easy.
shawnroche
09-25-2007, 07:33 AM
Somethign like $200-$250. It was easier after I installed it one time to take it off and back on the second time. It was a little bit dificult, but if you take your time, plan for some time it is not to bad. The hard part was getting to the screw to tighten the clamp on the throddle body. I had to use a very long screw driver to get down to it. Either you need a stubby one, or a very long one, but plan for the tools before time.
The sensor was a bit of a pain, because I was afraid of breaking it. I also ended up cutting off the wire tie that you place a bold over to hold the clamp, but in all the part most dificult part was the tight space by the throddle body.
I installed a K&N CAI on my V6 Charger, and by comparrison the charger was very easy.
sweeet so does that make it sumthing that can be done in a few hours or is it more of a day project.?
EXcaliber07
09-25-2007, 04:28 PM
sweeet so does that make it sumthing that can be done in a few hours or is it more of a day project.?
That depends on how good of a mechanic you are. It took more time to put the air temp sensor back in, then it did the rest of the job for me. Everytime I tried to put it in the supplied grommet, it pushed through.....time and time again, even though I used a lubricant on the sensor to try and get it back in. A little finessing and it finally seated. I believe it took me around an hour and a half.....give or take a little.;)
hiyabusa147
10-12-2007, 12:03 PM
so haw hard was the install? prolly not to bad but I thought I'd ask to see if you ran into problems...
thanks.
**never mind, lol, just read the posts above me...wow**
albert
10-12-2007, 05:49 PM
so haw hard was the install? prolly not to bad but I thought I'd ask to see if you ran into problems...
thanks.
**never mind, lol, just read the posts above me...wow**
The worse part was tightning it in the throddle body, you need an 18" screw driver. You also cannot remove the wire tie that clamps on a bold, you must cut it off the wiring harnes. Not a big deal, but you will need to purchase a replacement if you want it back 100% stock.
I underestimated how much of a pain it was. Now that I have done it, it is easier to install and ununstall.
EXcaliber07
10-12-2007, 06:24 PM
The worse part was tightning it in the throddle body, you need an 18" screw driver. You also cannot remove the wire tie that clamps on a bold, you must cut it off the wiring harnes. Not a big deal, but you will need to purchase a replacement if you want it back 100% stock.
I underestimated how much of a pain it was. Now that I have done it, it is easier to install and ununstall.
I agree!! I also had a hard time getting the air temp sensor back into the air tube, I must have worked on that for what seemed like forever.:o
UAWDODGERACEFAN
11-18-2007, 07:36 PM
MI am totally in agreement over the fact that other companies do have some performance parts. If you go to any/most of their websites they wont even have a selection for the 2007 dodge caliber on it. If you can send me a link to someone who has a different header out there,a different exhaust then so be it but i have yet to find more than maybe one
WELL GO TO AUTOANYTHING FOR THE MANAFLOW AND YOU CAN GET THAT K&N CAI INTAKE AIR CHARGER THERE TO MAYBE THE MANIFOLD TO AND AUTOANYTHING IS GREAT. HOLLA BACK AND I ALSO HAVE A CALIBER ON 20'S
quique0884
11-26-2007, 09:14 PM
so i should have waited a little bit before installing all the mopar toys on to my caliber?
EXcaliber07
11-27-2007, 05:15 AM
so i should have waited a little bit before installing all the mopar toys on to my caliber?
The Mopar stuff is just fine. It's all personal preference.;)
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