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bcsbiggest
11-14-2008, 08:13 AM
does anyone know if there are any aftermarket power upgrades(turbo or supercharger) for the caliber R/T??
i would like to add power any way i can...SOMEONE HELP!!!

bigtsr
11-14-2008, 08:21 AM
does anyone know if there are any aftermarket power upgrades(turbo or supercharger) for the caliber R/T??
i would like to add power any way i can...SOMEONE HELP!!!
If your RT has a CVT don't get to excited by the prospects of a lot
of power-it's not the tranny to do it with,but you can improve it.
K&N cold air intake,Mopar exhaust header and a catbak exhaust
will net you an appreciable difference over stock.Check out the vendors
here on the forumz.

Prop1
11-14-2008, 08:33 AM
What bigT said. If your R/T has the CVT, you're near the max the CVT can handle. 10-15 hp is all you can add without destroying the CVT. You can get that with the CAI, header, and performance exhaust.

Shaun
11-14-2008, 08:52 AM
I don't mean to beat a dead horse but...
http://media.ebaumsworld.com/picture/Rizzor/beatingadeadhorse.gif
...they're right. CAI, header, & exhaust.
IMO the K&N CAI isn't the best option though. I know because I went with that first, and I didn't like it at all. Very LOUD and no noticeable improvement. So I made my own "true" cold air intake, and have had GREAT results! Check it out... http://www.caliberforumz.com/showthread.php?t=24332&highlight=CUSTOM+cold+air+intake
The header is a great mod too... there are two out there, Mopar and DC Sports. Although DC Sports makes them both, they are identical.
The exhaust helps too. But you don't have to go with an entire catback system though, you can just cut off that stock "suitcase" muffler and have a shop weld on any decent straight thru performance muffler and reap benefits. You can also try adding a high flow catalytic converter, Magnaflow makes one.
Good luck! :smileup:

musiccwg
11-14-2008, 02:40 PM
Get NOS my friend. People don't believe me but there is a freakin Lancer with a SMALLER transmission that handles it just fine! BTW my friend put a supercharger on his stock cobalt! So I would say it is anything is possible. Transmissions are usually made to withstand at least a 100 more horsepower.

Prop1
11-14-2008, 04:23 PM
Get NOS my friend. People don't believe me but there is a freakin Lancer with a SMALLER transmission that handles it just fine! BTW my friend put a supercharger on his stock cobalt! So I would say it is anything is possible. Transmissions are usually made to withstand at least a 100 more horsepower.

That does not apply in this case. I found the proof that the Caliber R/T's 2.4L engine torque is at near the limit of the CVT. As I posted before, 10-15 hp is the only headroom you have to work with. These CVTs are not repairable. The whole unit has to be replaced. And they aren't cheap. Conventional ATs can handle another 100 hp because they use gears. The belt in the CVT is its biggest limiting factor.

Read this thread, and weep: http://www.caliberforumz.com/showthread.php?t=24672

musiccwg
11-14-2008, 05:12 PM
that chart only shows what they are rated at. It does say that it will BLOW at that. It simply is rated for those vehicles.

Prop1
11-14-2008, 05:51 PM
that chart only shows what they are rated at. It does say that it will BLOW at that. It simply is rated for those vehicles.

Since you're more than happy to tell everyone else to jack their car and possibly destroy their CVT, I suggest you put your money where your mouth is and feed your CVT with 200+ lbs of torque. If you don't tear it up in the first 1000 miles, or the programming doesn't prevent the torque from reaching the CVT; I'll admit that I'm wrong. Until then, it is irresponsible to tell somebody what you're telling them without the proof to back it up when there is plenty to backup what I'm saying. It's easy to tell somebody what you're telling them when you have no money invested in the outcome.

Since no one to date has actually torqued up their CVTs, professionally or otherwise, the best advice is to only do it if you have the money to fix all the possible damage that could result.

musiccwg
11-15-2008, 10:53 AM
hence why i am saving up just in case for damages... patience is a virtue prop1 lol

albert
11-15-2008, 04:28 PM
If your RT has a CVT don't get to excited by the prospects of a lot
of power-it's not the tranny to do it with,but you can improve it.
K&N cold air intake,Mopar exhaust header and a catbak exhaust
will net you an appreciable difference over stock.Check out the vendors
here on the forumz.
X2

I went with the R/T for the AWD, and possibility of a little bit more power. Maby I should have went for the manual.

The R/T gets about 5 mpg better city and highway, and has over 100 more hp than the R/T. To bad it will cost about 10k to trade in.

Prop1
11-15-2008, 04:51 PM
X2

I went with the R/T for the AWD, and possibility of a little bit more power. Maby I should have went for the manual.

The R/T gets about 5 mpg better city and highway, and has over 100 more hp than the R/T. To bad it will cost about 10k to trade in.

Please clarify this statement. Are you comparing a manual R/T to the CVT R/T, or the R/T to an CSRT? The 100 hp difference would make me suspect CSRT.:confused:

08RTPA
12-03-2008, 10:46 PM
I concur prop one His quote did sound funny though!!!

albert
12-05-2008, 05:45 PM
Please clarify this statement. Are you comparing a manual R/T to the CVT R/T, or the R/T to an CSRT? The 100 hp difference would make me suspect CSRT.:confused:
From what I have been told the performance of the Caliber R/T with a manual transmission is faster than the Caliber R/T with the CVT.

Yes the SRT-4 is faster, but I am not talking about the SRT-4. If when you order the R/T you go with a manual transmission over the CVT it is faster by quite a bit.

albert
12-05-2008, 05:48 PM
Now I see how what I origionally said was confusing. I must have been very tired. The SRT-4 with more power gets better milage than the R/T CVT, and for 5k more you get more power, better milage.

Strickly speaking of the R/T the manual is a faster car than the CVT.

08RTPA
12-05-2008, 08:19 PM
This is true but not at top end. once you hit about 3rd gear you will see a sinificant increase in acceleration with the CVT.The manual will only be faster out of the hole because you are able to shift when you want and not have to wind it out like the cvt. Its all in what you like.

albert
12-06-2008, 02:26 PM
0-60 is lower with the manual by 1-2 seconds, that is what I was speaking about.

08RTPA
12-06-2008, 11:52 PM
I agree albert sorry for the confusion.